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Mind Over Matter: The Meditation Club

Discussion in 'Education & Personal Growth' started by Gauri03, Feb 14, 2018.

  1. Sweety2016

    Sweety2016 Gold IL'ite

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    @Viswamitra ji the video was awesome!!! I will now definitely go through all of your threads that you have mentioned in the coming days...
     
  2. Viswamitra

    Viswamitra IL Hall of Fame

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    Most importantly, both Macrocosm and Microcosm have same five elements consist of earth, water, wind, fire and ether.
     
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    Every atom connected to all other atoms and all other atoms connected thst one for communication must be a mind boggling Matter ie brain responsible for association . I tre to remember things names by associating with facts already known to me. For example 26 I think of alphabet 27 I think of Tamil calendar stars 52 no of weeks 47 independence 10 downing street 11 cricket 9 navagrahas 111 iyengar 8 ashtalakshmi and so on and then like vibgyot I make a phrase to remember phone numbers policy or file number or door no or pincer. C12H22O11 was taught by my friend in 1960 to remember in a different way - the sugar chemical formula. Associating the bus routes 12 from ice house to parts 22 triplicane to egmore and 11 t nagar to parrys the routes familiar and in frequent use. Most of memory built perhaps by association only.
    Regards.
     
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    I had shared an interesting video I had a chance to view with @iyerviji (Vijiakka) yesterday. Actually, our mind struggles only when we move from pleasure to pain or vice versa. When we anticipate a crisis, our mind is dominated by "Why me?" and gets into depression and disappointment based on the level of pain. Similarly, when we face pleasure, our mind celebrates with pride that "I have done it" as soon as we hear even before the event happens.

    We keep moving from pleasure to pain and pain to pleasure throughout our life. It is like driving a car with a manual transmission changing gear from 1-4. If we try to shift gear without pressing clutch, it is difficult but if we use the clutch of "Saranagathi" with a mantra, "All happenings are for my own good alone", the shift becomes easier.

    A king took his Minister for hunting. While they were hunting, the King hurt his finger accidentally. The Minister said, "Everything happens for a good reason". King ordered his soldiers to arrest the Minister and put him in jail for his comments. A tribal team captured the king and decided to offer him to their God. When they were about to offer the King to their God, they found out the disfigured finger and decided that he was not a good offering to their God and released him. The King happily returned as his life was spared and apologized to his Minister stating, "What you said his right. My life was saved because my finger was disfigured. However, I have a question for you. What is the benefit you derived by your comment? You were kept in Jail by me for your comments".

    The Minister replied, "if you had not arrested me and took me to Jail, I would have continued the journey with you for hunting and I would have been selected instead of you for offering to the God. Therefore, even my comments and your subsequent order also happened for a good reason".
     
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    vidhyalakshmid Platinum IL'ite

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    ANDATHIL ULLADHE PINDATHIL ULLADHU -whatever is in this universe, is present in your genes, in your soul.
     
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    :hello: This story proves there is Law of conservation of emotions in the universe .
    • 2. It appears one person’s gain(s) momentarily appears to be another person(s) loss. It cane extended to group of persons or group of Nations. Examples are recent hostilities in Trade between US & China. Iran vs Us. Trades are shifted to other countries. A birth corresponds to a death elsewhere, a death of a person to me seems to be a birth in birds family or some animals family.
    • (By anaology one can say the total atmas in the universe or earth is a constant and the algebraic sum of emotions between them too constant. All in the world can never be happy)
    3. When king expressed is unhappiness and awarded punishment, the minister was unhappy. By awarding punishment king was happy or not. But little later, sorrow engulfed him as he was to be sacrificed at the Altar. The equation changed little later by cosmic force . He was let off and he was happy but the aboriginals turned unhappy or sad as they could not continue with their ritual. This ultimately changed the state of minister (in prison) with his shrewd explanation resulting in his being taken out of prison with rewards for his wisdom. Minister known for his aplomb, neither happy nor sad with approach of king rather he was unhappy for the king lacking in wisdom or truth in the Lord’s saying “EVERYTHING HAPPENS FOR GOOD, .......... “ in Bhagavatgeetha .

    4. If am sad it is not for ever, my sorrow would turn someone glad, if am unhappy sure at later time I am going to be happy. The wave of emotional graph with time is full of inevitable crests of jubilation, happiness, joy reaching at times a crescendo & troughs of despair, sadness, sorrow to abysmal depths.
    So beware of happiness and unhappiness; beware of Awards & Rewards;
    Thanks and Regards.
    God keeps humanity in quest of elation & sadness.
     
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    The more I study about brain and thought patterns, the more I get confused about the concept of karma! If actions are a consequences of neuron synchronization and our conditioning then where is the room for karma? If there is no effect of karma, then there is no such thing called good or bad in this universe!

    Anybody can do anything without the moral fear of consequences and get away with anything..So the entire world is just an probabilistic domain not governed by any moral laws..Innocent people die due to diseases, accidents, natural calamities, terrorism, poverty etc and we dont have any logical explanation for those deaths.we say its due to their past life's karmic activity but how do we validate it?

    On the other hands most of the criminals, wrong doers live a luxurious life till death and accumulate wealth not only for themselves but for posterity as well..!
     
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    Karma doesn't originate at the actions but at thoughts. There is no science behind from where seeds for our thoughts are sowed. Free will allows neuron sync to happen but thoughts come from our past Karma and how we shape them happens in our brain based on our free will. When we keep good company, good thoughts fill our brain, the quality of life gets better. It is all based on what we fill our cup with. Desires and attachments come from our thoughts and emotions. Only solution for karma to be reduced is to use our free will wisely to empower our thoughts or eiminate them.
     
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    :hello:@Viswamitra
    @Sweety2016
    Ref #357 & #358
    If my karma is my doing next question is how my past karma encrypted into my brain paths or neuron moments or movements from which seems thoughts bad or good origination causing or urging the individual to act upon and very action again leads to positive or negative karma.
    2. Some invisible ray or circuit connected between ultimate source and each one of species for developing thoughts and connected actions.
    3. I suppose, Saints monks Buddhists preferred to sit closed eyes inside dark caves avoiding all cacophony doing no physical work were also trying to cut or stop further accumulation of karma besides achieving their other goal or goals!
    Karma logic or illogical remains complex perplex and this theory unscientific and can not be validated.
    Thanks and Regards.
     
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    Dear Sri Thyagarajan:

    The science has not found out how thoughts are arising in our brain either. How do we validate that scientifically in the absence of any scientific work in this area? The human knowledge about the brain and its function themselves is still under development.
     
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