Judgement Season

You are like the curious eastern child the family is trying to raise in a western country. Ask a lot of probing questions.

We have been told that these divine naughties are not like regular ones -- serious, sweaty, hard work, by two people -- that we are all familiar with, and talk much about in this thread.

Nobody knows exactly how the divine-human thing happens. It is, as the term goes, a GREY area of knowledge. savvy ? In latter day, with the case of Mary (w/o Joeseph) there was such a divine-human thing, fuzzily described as "immaculate", but it is still grey. Apparently Joe was in connivance with that divine affair, and therefore it was all quite proper even under the older penal code of India.

just copy pasted the previous spelling from OP, I think.

 

I am happy that the forum post helped.
jest ? May be in the way I tell it or you read it. In the ways I have heard it from ladies with such last names, it never sounded like they were making it up.

Perhaps much of the gentle existentialism of the latter day Scandinavians come from the realization that antecedents don't matter as much as what we have here and now, and what we are going to do with it for the future.

 

We decriminalized drinking alcohol, and not everybody rushed off to buy and drink whatever we can. In Madras we are still valuing a good green grocers in the neighbourhood a lot more than a TASMAC store.

This equal treatment of men and women under the adultery statute is one step in getting to other basic rights, such as equal division of marital property, inheritance of ancestral property, and equal pay for the same work between men and women.

India already has one aspect of equal treatment for income tax filers -- husband and wife are treated as separate entities in India Income Tax whereas in the USA married people can choose to become one tax filer, thereby assuming all the advantages as well as liabilities of each other.

"can any person do adultery and exhibit a record of the same?" I was honestly baffled by this for a bit. Why would anybody want to "exhibit a record" ? And then I realised that Indian Family Courts do not have a no-fault divorce. The divorce filer will have to show some kind of proof, reason, etc.. for wanting a divorce. A confession to adultery by a 3rd party is accepted in family courts as sufficient cause to grant a divorce.

In many countries where a no-fault divorce is unavailable, lawyers can hire a fake adulterer who will provide the appropriate services for the couple who want to get a divorce. Ginger Rogers went through such a divorce in the old movie "The Gay Divorcee". Even though this recent adultery decriminalization in India would encourage some fake adulterers who can make a living as co-respondents in divorce cases, Indian Family court's main problem is the lack of capacity to deal with the load of cases, and even with concrete proof of adultery, getting a divorce will be painfully slow.

excerpt from: Advice on naming or being named as a co-respondent in a divorce - JMW Solicitors

Adultery and co-respondents in divorce
If the person filing for divorce (the petitioner) has done so on the basis that their spouse has committed adultery, they can name the third party involved as a 'co-respondent'. However, this is almost never done in practice and the divorce paperwork simply refers to the third party as 'Unnamed Man' or 'Unnamed Woman'.

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@jayasala42 maam,

Quite an elaborate article encompassing many of the recent landmark judgements. Honestly, I haven't tried to understand them all. On a few issues that I have understood, I feel differently.

Incestuous relationship has always been considered unethical, there can be no two opinions about it. While LGBTQ issues are of a different league and the two cannot be compared.

I suppose, rarely this law is misused.

In general, in the Indian society, both men and women are compelled by the societal pressure to hold on to their marriages. Only under extreme conditions women dare to bare the torture they undergo in their marriage. So here I feel the Apex court ruling would be a blessing for these suffering women.

 

eh ? Name-followed-by-Ma'am versus Madam-followed-by-Name convey totally different messages. The former is like addressing a school teacher, whereas the latter is like a reference to an evil genius, like Madam Defarge , the Dickens character from the "Tale of Two Cities".

Were you among the determined ? The recent change hasn't given anyone anything like a TASMAC store for committing adultery.

Most of our people are tired out by the time they are in their late 30's, with two children in schools. Even the upper middle class, with access to good nutritious food, need mega vitamins just to commit some legitimatery now and then. Is legitimatery is the right word opposite of adultery ?

Penal provisions and controls for the 90% of the married people ? Hahaha...I am totally diverted thinking about the engineering designs for the possible "controls".

You are a sweet thing Ms. Jaya. If we got that far, as to institute government controls, marriages might become a dangerous thing to want. On the other hand, all the penal provisions and controls might have the good consequence of abolishing marriages as well as dowries.