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Discussion in 'Married Life' started by BhumiBabe, Feb 9, 2017.

  1. BhumiBabe

    BhumiBabe Platinum IL'ite

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    I've posted previously about my troubled marriage. I grew up in the US and had an arranged marriage with a man who grew up in India and came to the US for his masters. We have been married for 2.5 years and have a beautiful 22 month son. We had culture issues and personality issues from the beginning (as in after engagement), but the people around us kept telling us things will get better after we're married, or after a baby, or (now) after some 10 years or so. I was working before marriage and during pregnancy, but then I was a Stay At Home Mom until this month. We also started attending marriage counseling with an Indian counselor (who is very fair and acceptable to both of us), when I was ready to just pack up and leave, because I couldn't take the emotional and mental "abuse" and I felt like it was negatively impacting our son - this was nearly 3 months ago. The fights are generally based on the fact that I'm not Indian enough or smart enough, or doesn't listen to his demands (since he knows best). My husband's one goal as a parent is to not raise me son to be like me (I'm not perfect, but I am his mother and was his full-time caretaker). - Anyway, I feel emotionally stronger than I was then.

    Through our counseling sessions, we saw some improvement, but the pre-existing anger seems to keep us from ever really connecting. Also during our sessions, we brought up an issue about our sex life. I had always thought I couldn't connect with my husband because of our fights and the way he made me feel, so I am never interested. This is obviously a problem for him, so I try to please him as much as I can (which I will admit, is not that much - 3 to 4 times a month). Through some research and talking to my counselor, I am starting to think that I may be asexual and not ever going to be interested in intercourse. This was a big blow to my husband (the fact I've never had an orgasm), and I am starting to feel like we are far more mismatched than I initially thought.

    Quality of life is suffering for both of us and we bring out the worst of each other. I can't say that my marriage is making me a good parent, because we don't talk to each other and our fights makes it difficult for us to interact with our son as a family. We decided to start counseling because we didn't want our bad relationship to affect our son, but we aren't able to bring a happy home life for our son and neither of us has any emotional attachment to each other. (My counselor asked me if H died, would I miss him, and I really couldn't answer truthfully without hurting feelings)

    So it brings me to the question, is it fair to anyone, (me, my son, my husband) for me and my husband to stay married?
     
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  2. YoGirl

    YoGirl Gold IL'ite

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    OP,
    No offense but..you both went for counselling and shared your views.Here in this forum, we see only your views. So, its not fair to judge your marriage based on ur POV alone.

    All i can say is, even love marriages have difficult times in the initial years..atleast now dont listen to anyone who says everything will be alright when u have second kid or once kid goes to school. Be ur own judge and take ur own decisions..if possible with H. I hope the counselling will help u see the differences and embrace them.
     
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    I am baffled at the way parents are fixing matches. Dont they analyse that the 2 are not compatible? I think they should take full responsibility for this state..
    Wat is ur parents take on ur marriage situation?
     
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    How long have you been attending marriage counseling and are you both willing to make efforts pursuant to the recommendations of the therapist or are either of you just going through the motions? It is not right for him to say you are "not enough" for any reason really, just as you could say he's not "American" enough. It sounds like you don't feel like he is trying to understand and appreciate who you are for you. May I ask why you agreed to an arranged marriage if you grew up in the US?

    It will take time to work through the anger and resentment that exists, but if both of you are making the effort it may subside in time as you each see that you see each other's perspectives more. The key is that you both have to make the effort - and sometimes even with that, true it doesn't work out, but it doesn't sound like you are quite at that point yet. With counseling, sometimes it also gets worse before it gets better because both of you are putting everything out there honestly.

     
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    BhumiBabe Platinum IL'ite

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    I get what you're saying, but right now I am really questioning the value of my marriage because two things happened:
    1. My lack of sexual interest in general has made my husband feel like he's being taken advantage of, since he is the primary breadwinner. For me, I could probably be happy never having sex, but for him, I do my best to say yes. But, I can understand that it's not really enough, because he wants me to initiate too.

    2. My counselor, who is really helping us push each other to learn to accept each other, noticed how our counseling sessions are going and has told me that it going to take a lot of counseling. She told me that things will probably not change and that if its intolerable, then I should divorce him for the good of my son.
     
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    OP, I suggest you go for counseling for yourself too, because you've discovered something very important about yourself. If you're asexual & have to have sex to "please" him, it's going to be traumatic. You're subjecting yourself to an experience that all your instinct revolt against.

    Therapy here will benefit you & ultimately your decision about your marriage.

    Your husband must be feeling undesirable. In a loving marriage also if one partner is asexual, it throws up a lot of problems for the other. But for the sake of the love they may compromise or come to an understanding.

    Listen to yourselves the two of you. Decide to be good co-parents, even if you are not good in a marriage. Take sex off the table while you are going to therapy, tell him you should live separate lives for a bit, give each other lots of space. Set up a running schedule for your son & have family time. This you do for your son, not have sex, not have bitter silences.

    What's done is done. Indians don't understand about compatibility & relationship. Declare a truce: we are not at fault, but we have a beautiful boy. You change your attitude, and let him adjust his. Please change your mindsets to adulting. As in, going forward we are in charge of how we feel, act, think, & conduct our lives. Brook no interference. You're an American, you know what I mean. Most of all, decide to be kind.

    You may not save your marriage but 3 whole people can emerge from this.

    Go have a long think, tell your body to relax, set your inner dial purposefully to 'good change' & walk in that direction.

    Be good to yourself. You deserve it. And your family will benefit. Your son will thank you one day, because you will have shown him that it is possible to change course midway, because something is so clearly not working, & you can still succeed. He will come to you for help because you were honest & got help for yourself. Mistakes are ok. Failure is ok. Change is good. Attitude is all.

    I wish you all the very best, & hope your family heals.
     
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    1. Are you not interested in intimacy because of your H or you were never really interested even before marriage? What would be ur suggestions for alternatives for ur H's sexual drive? He is a man and i guess he needs to satisfy it somehow.
    2. I would commend your H for diligently attending the counselling sessions. Does it mean that he was not yet seriously thinking of seperation or divorce? In this forum soo many woman complained that their H wont attend any counselling sessions as he would feel that he is not at fault for the downhill of marriage..
     
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  8. Rajeni

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    Dear OP,

    Read your other posts (from older days as well). Your sexual drive is not the only problem you are facing in your marriage. Already, your marriage was on the rocks! Are you (or your counselor) sure that you are asexual? or is it due to the lack of emotional bonding with your H that you are not able to perform?

    From your other posts, I could see that your H was very controlling. He married an NRI woman who was born & brought up in US and expected her to be like a typical Indian wife or I must say submissive wife (even in India, a lot of women no longer fall in that category!) and accused you of not "Indian-enough" when you didnt meet that expectation. He wanted an old-fashioned wife, who, as per the Indian marriage rules, would distant herself from her family and in no time adjust with and get attached to his family, obey his rules, cover up for him and save his face in front of her family - the list goes on. His plan to move to India, his reluctance to meet and mingle with your family are outcomes of this attitude. So, its understandable that you had a tough time and you are now seriously contemplating divorce.

    But, on the other hand, he now is attending the counselling sessions with you and is being co-operative (a vast majority of men don't do this). So, does that mean that he is trying to make the marriage work? If yes, is that because of his family pressure (considering they are conservative)? or, for the kid? Whatever the reasons are, if he puts in genuine efforts to make it work then its worth putting in your efforts as well! When both the parties involved make genuine effort and meet middle-ground things may work!

    First, consult a physician and try to sort out and confirm, whether you are truly asexual? I am not sure how this can be done or whether it can be done, maybe other ILites can offer help here.
    Based on that, have an open conversation with your H. If it turns out that your are asexual, ask him what his plans are. If he wants divorce, go ahead. Tell him clearly that this is how you are and he cannot expect you to be co-operative and initiate too -like someone already said, that would be traumatizing for you. DON'T PUNISH YOURSELF!
    If it turns out that you can work on and improve your drive and its due to your current situation, convey that clearly - Tell him, unless, he is helpful in forming an emotional bonding and better understanding, you would not be able to meet his expectations in bed!
    Based on how the conversation go, take your decision!

    Hope, the counselling sessions have given him enough sense to change his attitude towards you and you both would find a middle-ground and work from there! ALL THE BEST!!
     
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    Very true! They don't yet understand that, things will be alright when they start living together no more holds good in this age!
    And, whether they take responsibility or not the sufferers (in many cases lifelong misery) are the young ones!
    Worst case, some parents force their children (mostly daughters) to "adjust" and stay in the marriage!
    Pray the OP's parents should be supportive of whatever decision she is going to make!
     
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    Are you sure that you are an asexual?
    Because some women have a very low drive after pregnancy/delivery and the postpartum takes a toll on their sex life. This may be coupled with your other tensions, such as compatibility issue, cultural problems etc...
    So, obviously for many women in your shoes, sex may be the last option.
    No one can't connect, specially women can't never connect with a man sexually when they are emotionally very much distance.
    When sex happens, both your mind and body should work for it. If mind fails to connect, it would be very difficult.
    In your case, you should introspect this thing first.
    Whether you do not have sexual feelings at all? Have you ever aroused sexually?
    Forget about your H and the issues for now. Just think whether you are ok without a sexual life?
    People are born as asexual, and some develop very low drive over the time due to various reasons. If it is related to pregnancy hormones, better you check with a relevant doctor in this regard.

    Now that, have an open talk with your spouse about everything that you discuss with the counselor and here. See what is his opinion about all this.
    First of all you both should be happy and enjoy or at least survive your life as a couple to become parents to your son.

    In your eyes, you are forced to have sex while your sexual orientation is different. It may feel cruel after sometimes, but it may be equally amount to cruelty for your H to starve from sex when he is young and hot blooded.
    When both of you are unhappy, it will be very difficult to stay in a marriage happily. All the nitty gritty things will blow up and create a rift between the two of you. This will eventually affect your growing son.

    If your only reason to stay in this marriage is the kid, you may better find alternatives like how to co-parent the kid, and how to divide the responsibilities, and how to satisfy his expectations as parents then and there. There are ways, and you are better off with this alternate plan than trying the conventional marriage.
    Speak with your husband.
     

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