how to get normal delivery

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  1. varshas01

    varshas01 New IL'ite

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    all the best friends!!
     
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    Hi Deepa,
    The statement "Nothing is in our hands" I am trying to say that, though you do stressful excersises and extensive walking, the moment if it requires a C-section, then she has to undergo to it. As Tikka said, most of the times it all depends on doctors ethics. That moment we just need to trust your doctor and can't blindly try for a vaginal birth.
    Though she takes all suggested actions during labour, we really can't predict the baby's movement because that time, the lady is already undergoing a stressful labour and already vexed up with pains.
    Sometimes, doctors try for Normal but its all depends on baby's position and movement leads to a normal or C-section. Afterall we need to have a healthy baby. Sometimes, Vaginal birth process may affect breathing of the baby as I heared from my Gynic.
     
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    Exercises that are " stressfull" should never be done during pregnancy. I dont think anyone does that.

    Again C-section is a life saving surgery and its has its importance in maternity care at the highest level. but educate yourself on what are absolute indications for C-sections. A 3 kg baby is not a reason for a c-section.

    And also baby does not breathe during vaginal birth only on being born does it take its first breathe.

    Trial of labor is important. That means allowing the woman to go into labor and then see how things go. Even when it is a planned c-section its good to allow the woman go through trial of labor and then perform surgery as harmones released during labor help in releasing a surfatant that helps the baby's lungs to expand on birth. Which is why number of babies born vaginally have much less breathing issues than compared to C-section babies. Most Babies born vaginally are immediately given to mother, many babies born by c-section are monitored and observed in neonatal care for respiratory issues.

    Deepa
     
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    Priya, you misunderstand what I say, whether wilfully or not is not for me to say. Does that mean, in your reckoning, you are not capable of finding a doctor with good ethics. Of course, it is in your hands. You OUGHT to interview doctors who will put the need of the patient ahead of their need to go home to dinner and TV.
    Your doctor needs to earn your trust and not the other way around. Healthcare is as much a service sector as, say, your internet service provider is. If you are going to shop around for an internet service that offers you the best, you better shop around for a doctor who will offer you the best.

    I would like you to post here what percentages the doctor is talking about. How many percents of vaginal deliveries result in respiratory distress for the neonates. How does that compare to c-sections. How does that compare to home births with midwives and little medical intervention.
    Here is a study that states to the opposite. In comparison to c-section, the occurence of respiratory distress is 4 times less in vaginal deliveries.

    "My OB said so" - kinda statements are dangerous when they are not backed up with data or peer-reviewed papers. The medical fraternity has its own list of myths, let's not perpetuate them here.

    An ethical and well-trained doctor will try and push for vaginal deliveries. Most of the baby position and movement issues can be managed without extreme medical intervention. I know of a mother whose child's heart beat started dropping when she was about to transition. The nurse immediately realised there was an issue with the cord, reached inside the mother and untangled the cord. She was already on epidural and could easily have been pushed into an emergency c-section. But a well-prepped staff can avoid those situations from turning into an emergency.

    And you as a mother need to find out the competence of your staff before you get to that stage.

    I know you had a c-section, though I have no idea why. I dont know what exactly it is that your Ob told you to agree to that c-section, whether it was planned or not. My heart goes out to you if you had an "unneccesarean".
     
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    Hi tikka,
    I am not contradicting anything here.
    Just posted my views on vaginal birth. Infact I had a vaginal birth but it was a long labour. Just keeping that in mind, I really dont advice vaginal birth if the labour is so stressful like that.
     
  6. tikka

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    Priya, the problem I have with what you posted is that it is your experience or hearsay and not science. And pain is such a subjective experience. Could your stressful labour have been managed better? I think it SHOULD have been. Both you and your doctor could have done a lot to reduce that stress. I hate it when doctors scream at labouring women like they were cattle. I have seen that happen a million times, and I just want to smack those guys and say have a heart. I hope your labour was not one of those deliveries. I am really sorry to hear you had to go through a stressful experience, when you could easily have had a beautiful one. I can see from your post, you feel scarred by the experience. Hugs.

    See, prenatal exercises and Lamaze (or breathing) can help one prepare for labour and therefore be in control of what is happening. I had the opportunity of going to just one of the three prescribed and was underprepared for labour.
    But with what I knew from that I could easily listen to my body, almost instinctively. I knew when I was moving from one stage of labour to the other, how to breathe when it hurt bad. I instinctively knew my body was ready to push. I felt when my contractions were happening and could follow my OB's instructions to push. I knew when DS was crowning when an episiotomy was performed (despite being anaesthetised.) I had an pain-relief free labour (no epidural, no bethadine (sp?) ) for most parts. I was acutely aware of what's happening and that helped so much to wrap up the delivery with minimum fuss.
    Did I cry out in pain. Yes! I believe I told my husband "He is responsible for all of this. I will kill him." My OB just started laughing at that, she and I were discussing the book she was currently reading while I was breathing through my transition. I was birthing at 34 weeks' gestation, when my mother was recovering from a surgery and my husband was slated to fly out for a conference. My OB helped me a lot, knowing these circumstance.

    The labour room was so relaxed because I as a parent decided to take some responsibility of what's happening to my family.
    Every mother should do that and should be given the opportunity to do that. Her body knows how to birth a child vaginally and doctors are there when there are complications.
    Did I have a birth of my choice? No. But we have talked to our OB about it since and I realise, some of what was done was to help my preemie being born with less difficulty. Some I dont agree was necessary, but we have agreed to disagree.
    I am paraphrasing something that Deepa said the other day: I chose to speak to the doctor as an informed adult with a lot of respect for her training. My doctor chose to treat me as an adult. If they refuse to, then change the doctor.
    Make that choice!
     
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    And here is a very interesting read on baby positions and movement, that seems to crop up every now and then. What to do for optimal foetal positioning.
    I am not an expert that a child birth educator is, but a simple google search can yield you a lot of information that you can talk to your doctor about for a vaginal delivery.
    To the OP: We have threadjacked completely :). Sorry. Hope you got the answer for your query.
     
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    certainly a healthy debate going on here, and was interesting to read through.
    now i have a few off the beat questions....
    the first 7 months of pregnancy, i was running around the house doing daily chores like full fledged cooking, dusting, watering plants, walking my dog and several stranded chores.
    but entering my 8th month, i hve slowed down considerably. all i manage to do is cook simple foods and walk my dog. one major reason being sciatica which gives me intense pain from groin to down under, sometimes when i am up from bed my legs go numb, and i rub them and manage to do some simple foot exercises.
    so does that mean that i am not toiling enough?or doing enough exercise? i really am in no mood to push my body to greater limits.
    the other day i did speak to my doc about my concern over episiotomy, which i had posted here before.
    i didnt want to believe what she said, that majority of first time births will undergo episiotomy,and then i knew i had to make up my mind for having !
    i dont know about other places or other countries, but the one reason i have stuck along with my gyn is that she atleast takes out the time to answer even the dumbest of my questions, whereas i have had terrible experience with a couple of birth centers here, pathetically commercialised.
     
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    Krithika and Deepa,

    This post got me disturbed. This question has always bothered me - was it really necessary for me to undergo C-section? Please give your inputs. I know nothing can be done about it now, but would like to hear from you.

    In my 13 weeks of gestation, Glucose - SPOT was 144 and in 28 weeks - 132. I didn't get any advice on diet (or) further tests after these results. In 37 weeks scan, the estimated fetal weight was 3.39kg. Since the weight was on higher end, my OB wanted me to do Glucose - SPOT immediately and it was 140. She said glucose level is at borderline, and asked us to wait for a week. At 38 week examination, baby was in Head down position, but engagement didnt happen . Since I conceived (IUI, since my left fallopian tube was blocked) after 5 yrs of marriage and had gestational diabetes, my OB didnt want to take any risk, she said we will have to go for C-section. Considering the same fact, we agreed to it.

    On the same day, my OB had 2 other patients, one had labor pain but ended up in C-section, since the baby's heartbeat was dropping. Another lady had normal delivery. Considering this I thought my OB is not commercialized. I have heard good feedback about her.

    I delivered a boy, his birth weight was 3.24kg, he is 1 year 7 months old now and doing great. I am happy about it. My sugar levels are also ok now.

    I am curious to know, if I had been on diet from 13 weeks of gestation(glucose - 144, I didnt get any advice to be on diet), do you think sugar levels would have been under control and baby weight might not have increased? I could have avoided C-section.

    Thanks,
    Priya
     
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    Priya, Hugs. When there is an issue pre-conception like yours most OBs go for full medical intervention... there is just too much emotion involved in that for the doctor to leave it to nature. I am not justifying it, but just stating my observation here.
    Is that ethical, did patients get a balanced picture about their choices? Do patients equip themselves with information and seek clarifications. Only you can answer those questions. I can see you are disturbed by what happened in the labour room, so I am guessing you are not totally happy. Take the time out to heal yourself. My experience and birth circumstances did push me into postpartum depression and it took me nearly two years to get over it and focus on the positives in the experience. Hugs again.
     

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