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Discussion in 'Parents & Siblings' started by Attitudematters, Sep 19, 2016.

  1. Attitudematters

    Attitudematters New IL'ite

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    Dear ilites,
    I am a well known poster in married life forum and had to create a new account to maintain my anonymity..I never thought I would be posting in this forum even in my wildest dreams...this is regarding my sister younger to me by 6 years..

    Ours is a close knit family of parents and two girls.. parents had love marriage and though we were middle class ppl parents ensured all our needs are met..we both in turn studied well and I am well placed..my sister is a state topper in board exams and is pursuing medicine..I am married and settled with my hubby in different city..I visit them once in three months..now that am settled I help my parents financially so that they lead a comfortable stress free life..I take care of their extravagant costs like car,vacation, amenities for home etc..I love my family like hell and consider my sis as my first daughter..I pamper her a lot..buy her everything..support her always and I am always there for her..
    Both of my parents are working and has age related health issues...they too do stuffs to make her happy..I never lived a sophisticated life like my sister..I was always that responsible parents pleasing elder daughter who is v expressive..whereas my sister is completely non expressive..she doesn't understand my parents difficulties.she comes home every weekend from hostel and keeps studying or playing in mobile....doesn't help my parents with a single thing.. even that is ok for them but she sometimes shouts at them when her things are not done..last week I had been home and she had asked them to get her some cream when they were going for veggie purchase..they told we ll try today else tomorrow.. that's it she started shouting at the top of her voice and told chi po ( get off) without any respect to my dad..sometimes pushes them, pinches them..if she is angry she doesn't know what she is doing.. dad is bp patient and gets agitated.. he is a soft spoken man who doesn't like yelling and letting neighbours know but she keeps shouting and he feels ashamed and angry..this is routine occurence every week end..the most painful part is she never repents or feel sorry for her mistakes..since she comes for a day parents behave as if nothing happened and talk to her after sometime..
    She doesn't even care to look into their reports being a house surgeon herself unless told..I have scolded her many times to be considerate but in vain..even I can't stand her getting sad so talk immediately..she has pimples she blames them, if she misses train she blames them, etc..in normal times she is all funny and we all be like one crazy happy family..
    Parents are worried dealing with her and am worried for them..how can we make her realise that she has to be matured??
     
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  2. vaidehi71

    vaidehi71 IL Hall of Fame

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    Hi,
    It is really unfortunate that a person studying in that field is responding and behaving in a childish manner. I am sorry to hear the issues which is concerning you and your parents.
    Well, the answer is in your ID name. The attitude of this person has to change, I think it should have been a long standing issue, as per your thread here. It doesn't seem like an overnight issue. It should have been from young age and that is a possibility.
    You would be better off, instead of pampering her with your extravagant spending, put some reality into her life. Why does she need to have so much to spend if you consider it yourself as extravagant. Certain times, we too are going overboard to please others and that is the reason the things are taken for granted. Might be you are thinking for the sake of your parents, but in the end it is your hard earned money which needs to be spent wisely. Think of ways how to please your parents in things that are essential. Same with your sister.
    You need to figure these things out. Because I don't know the dynamics and necessities of your family. In your sister's case, probably a bit of counselling might help her or just sit down and talk to her by yourself without your parents around. Open communication is necessary. Definitely I am appalled at the word she had uttered at your parents. Talk to her and make her realize the issues which are giving unhappiness to yourself and your parents. Hope she changes.
    Hope you are able to rectify the problem.
    Take care,
    Vaidehi
     
  3. joylokhi

    joylokhi Platinum IL'ite

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    Op,
    clearly, as Vaidehi as put it, her behaviour is a result of all the pampering over time. Even unknowingly many parents themselves pamper the younger sibling , when compared to the elder one. The elder even if not told in so and so words, is always made to feel he/she requires to be more responsible etc and it turns out to be so also. From what i gather, the solution here would be to slowly stop pampering her. Your parents need not take her bad behaviour even if it is a question of her weekly visit only. She needs to be told (by you personally) that instead of looking forward to her visits parents may just dread her coming if she continues in this manner. Hope she is able to realise as this attitude will be a problem for her in her personal life in future as well. Take care.
     
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    KashmirFlower IL Hall of Fame

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    I don't think it is normal even if she is pampered. pinching and pushing, it is a routine? How is she with outside people. She has good long term friends? is she able to maintain long term relationships with others? is she the same from the beginning or she developed it recently?
    Does she shout at you too? Try to talk to her friends and class mates, may be she is in stressful or anxiety stage.
    Why anybody has to get that much anger, there is some other issue which is coming out like that. You please see in this angle too.
     
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    MalStrom IL Hall of Fame

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    Your sister has become a spoiled brat and is behaving exactly like a small child throwing a tantrum when denied it's littlest wish. She also seems to be somewhat immature. You have enabled her by buying extravagantly for her and your parents also probably never disciplined her. This is not going to change overnight. And you are not doing her any favors by letting this continue. How will she react at her job when things don't always go her way, and when she gets married and has to make a lot of adjustments?
    You need to go cold turkey on her. Stop buying her gifts and anything non-essential. If she gets a stipend then she should be able to manage with that. Otherwise make sure that her allowance just covers the necessities. And your parents also need to be strict with her. If she behaves badly at home they should tell her that she is not welcome at their house and she can remain in the hostel until she learns to treat them properly. Being soft and pleading has not worked so far, has it?
    You all need to sit her down and talk to her seriously, then back up your words with actions.
     
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    SunPa Platinum IL'ite

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    Dear OP, Yes attitude matters, but here it is not only about attitude. It is about responsibility and respect. Unfortunately, your sis has not been shown the need to develop those traits. Tough love is a vital part of parenting, and if you all love her enough, you will bite your lips , squeeze your eyes and do the right thing. You can't let your weakness of " I can't bear to see my sis hurt" be the reason of her poor character. You all have to shoulder the blame when she has mega relationship issue in future.

    This is a much harsher case, but have you heard the tamil song - "ooshi eetho paar amma.." The Boy and His Mother - Fables of Aesop

    You owe it to her to be tough and show her the path. Parental love is not about pampering, it about providing needs and inculcating good values.That is your (putting you in the parental role) responsibility. It is going to be much harder, since she is all grownup , but better late than never. You parents have raised you well, wouldn't you want your sister to be like that? Otherwise, you all are doing her an injustice.
     
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    Iamagoodgirl Platinum IL'ite

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    Too much pampering has spoiled her.Looks like she has got sense of entitlement.
    Cut all the spending on her.Give her only what is needed.
    you need to show her tough love.
    Tell your parents to not to talk to her if she behaves like this again.
     
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  8. Attitudematters

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    Dear all,
    I thank each one of you deep from my heart for providing me with really valuable suggestions..it pains deep inside to accept that my little sister is getting arrogant day by day..more than my hubby n infant i give more importance to my family still I really don't understand how she turned out to be thiis way..i ll try answering the queries raised by all of you..
    1. She is not the same to everyone..she behaves this way only to us..in college, amomgst friends and relatives she is a sweet spoken girl..we have told her many times om the same line but she listens for the moment behaves ok or stays quite but is back to square one the v next day when we become normal..she is not a social person, doesn't hangout with friends etc instead comes home religiously every weekend and loves us so much..so my mom keeps telling we have to give her allowance as her profession is v stressful which i dont buy..
    I am home this week and she as usual created a issue..i got her salwar suits and that needs to be stitched last wednesday for onam..she told me to give to tailor the very next day..i clearly told i ll try..as i was busy i wasn't able to..there she comes on saturday and starts shouting that i dont keep up my promise etc to all of us..dad was damn angry..long story short she immediately went in 5 mins and got her job done..cant she do it without yelling??
    Now we are not in talking terms..whereas parents keep going behind her for eating etc..they advise me to keep up my promise..I was shocked..she left back to college and will be home next week and I will leave to my city then..can't she be kind atleast for the few days we are together..
    She doesn't go to bank..my dad has to handle everything..he is partially disabled.a many issues this way..
    2. Extravagant means buying her dresses, mobile, cosmetics, eatables ...nothing more. She never expects and demands anything.. infact opts for lower cost items..its me who love buying her gifts to see that beautiful smile on her face..when I was her age I started earning..
    3.many times I ve talked for hours together, given her counselling, cited examples etc but nothing is making an impact though she listens calmly..she adamantly follows her way..parents tell we don't expect her for anything..we will do stuffs for her till we are alive..but when they daughters of other families fight for money, taking care of parents etc they counsel me
    4. Apart from that she is an excellent doctor, get good marks and behaves well in college..once she cried like hell for missing honors in a subject as to how she let us down
    5. Most imp she is always stressed about her skin..she has uneven skin tone and has wheatish complexion..her nose has black heads...she keeps applying spmething or the other but it is just stubborn..i am on the fairer side and there is always this comparison amongst relatives which i hate
    ..i dont want her to feel bad so we three cover up by pampering her a lot
    5. She doesnt know what she does in anger..once she told us that she knows how to kill herself with an injection if things go wrong..when agitated checks her heartbeat, bp infront of us and says i ll die because of you guys..oh i am fed up..sorry for long post..what should be the right way to discipline her as a sister?
     
  9. KashmirFlower

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    Good to know that she is a good doctor and she has good friends and well behaved outside home.
    If BP & heartbeat is rising, at this young age, she is stressful may be because of her professional demands. As a doctor she might be knowing everything, like why and when she is losing temper, what healthy food and life style has to follow etc, which has huge impact on out stress levels.

    if in future her H is a soft guy means she may treat him also same way, then she will not have a loving H, they can't keep loving your sis, if she behaves so, like you guys.

    If she reads books, introduce her to good personality development books, How important a person to be respectful towards every other person, etc. Your parents also need to be assertive.
    You can search in amazon.in website for books

    You all talked and counselling is done, she is not listening to that and no effect. so it should come from a third person. May be your parents and your sister can meet a counselor ( or a family friend who is good in telling some good words and you sis respects them) .

    If she respects your H, and your H is ok, he also can tell few words with out telling anything like your parents worried etc, but casual talk,
     
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    Dear @Attitudematters

    Lots of similarities with my personal experience!
    Start dealing with your sister like you deal with a stubborn child.

    - First off, if you express everything about your parents and do everything for everyone in your family, what is left for your sister to do? She may not voice out her thoughts like you do or care for your parents as you do, that doesn't mean she doesn't care about them or about you. She is not yet there. She is not you, she may not be able to do everything like you do. You all have done everything for her so long (still-doing) and suddenly if you expect her to grow up, she won't. Needs to be done in steps.

    - She considers you and your parents as a safe zone. A zone where she can have what she wants, let herself go and act however she has to. Thats why she is well-behaved outside and is letting loose at home. Being with setting boundaries with her. Like when she disrespects your dad or misbehaves with your mom, she should be told not to do so with a stubborn tone. Yeah she will shout, but when she does so, you ignore it, ignore her. Move to the next room and continue ignoring it if needed. If she yells on the phone, disconnect the call. Call back after a while and talk normally about unrelated stuff - nothing relevant to what she was demanding. Same with buying her stuff. Just say no and don't give importance to her tantrums or shouting. She can either get what she wants when she is polite with you all and at your convenient time, or she should do it herself.

    - She is listening to your advice, just not understanding the impact or just doesn't know how to act on it. She needs to learn from experience. Frankly, I think you should let her. Simple tasks like accompanying your dad to the bank, helping with mom etc should be delegated to her. Else she herself is going to have a tough time down the lane. When she does small stuff, praise her a bit. Next time she visits, just tell her in a soft tone to look at your parents reports and see if everything is ok. If she does and lets you know, praise her for what she did. This will slowly become a habit if you give her the space.

    - Her coming home on weekends is OK now because she shouldn't be left unmonitored for a long time. She could also be under stress about completing her course with good grades, may be she is just not able to express it by sitting and talking. It may be easier for her to cry or shout. Keep an eye on her. Hope it works out well for you all!
     
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