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Discussion in 'Friends & Neighbours' started by Laks09, Nov 29, 2018.

  1. Laks09

    Laks09 Moderator Staff Member IL Hall of Fame

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    I'm not sure she will be open to that either. I'm hoping she recognizes she's needing some form of help and works on it.

    Thank you for mentioning this. I never thought about it that way. Yes, I've dealt with a lot of guilt and self-blame too and it took a lot of effort to get over that. I will definitely bring it up with her.
     
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    Laks09 Moderator Staff Member IL Hall of Fame

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    This is what I'm doing now. Taking a step back and waiting for her to evaluate her situation and ask me for specific help.
     
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    Laks09 Moderator Staff Member IL Hall of Fame

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    Thank you for stepping in Shanvy!

    Ha ha! Who knows?


    Our hubbies are long lost brothers? Kumbh ke mele me ghum hogaya types? Mine uses this dialoge often.

    This is why I'm not completing cutting her out, because of thinking about it in those terms.

    I will continue doing this!

    She told me both of them are losing it and are punishing the child. That's when I broke and suggested the counseling. What's the use of spanking a child who doesn't have the skills to understand why he's being spanked. I can understand spanking for things like defiance when he knows what he's doing is wrong and still doing it. I just can't for a sped child who isn't verbal yet. Why spank because they are collectively losing their patience? Since I don't have access to the hubby I suggested counseling to her.

    This is sad, I hope she is able to get some semblance of control. The therapists are really nice but I know them, having worked with them. They will lose it if the parents don't put in the effort. Ultimately it impacts the kid.

    Will do!

    So true. I'm going to do that. Running has been taking a back seat with people visiting and then this on the side. I'll try and head out today!

    Fingers crossed!
     
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    Laks09 Moderator Staff Member IL Hall of Fame

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    I agree. I hope she gets the courage to deal with everything and also the mountain of patience she needs to deal with her son!
     
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    @Viswamitra sir,
    Thank you for the personal stories. I love how your friend in India has found a way to serve the community. I have this lady who helped me when my son was initially diagnosed. She gave me a few tips that I since have tried to follow and one of the things that she did mention was that paying it forward does help us. Finding a community also helps a lot, which is why I've been trying to get this lady to connect with others like her. Looks like she isn't able to at all. I hope she finds the support and the help.

    I think she has made up her mind that she's alone in this. I don't know her equation with her husband but she does mention most often that he isn't supportive. Sometimes, we have no way of gauging what that means. I steer clear of the partner topic because I've sensed resentment and I don't want to deal with that.
    I like the roadmap idea. It's not about making her son fall into the normal category but rather accepting this as her new normal and working towards bettering it!

    I was assuming that she probably knows this deep down. I had a rule back in the day when my son was newly diagnosed. I was losing it and before I could take it out on the kids I'd leave the house. If DH was here, I would just head out. If not, I would immediately call the emergency sitter. Similarly, when DH was having a hard time(which is a rarity), I would step in and he would go away. I have a feeling that these parents are feeding off of each other's anxieties. She has mentioned multiple times that they try to handle him together and then lose it together and end up spanking him and having a shouting match. I told her that taking turns with the kid to conserve energy was a good thing but its hard to let go. When my son is having a behavior and DH is handling it, even now I have to hold myself back. I assume it's the same with most moms. I will try and mention this in other ways to her. The happy mom equal happy child mantra!
     
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    Oh dear, that doesn’t sound good at all. I feel it shows that the parents have no earthly idea of what they are dealing with. they seem to be fundamentally ignorant about the condition and what it entails. They need to first be educated by the professionals on what the child can and cannot do, is able to understand at his level etc. Laks I know you mean well and have a heart of gold but you may be way out of your depth here. I think you should get in some qualified people to talk to the parents first or this may not end well at all. I’m not saying all should automatically know this kind of details. It’s ok to not know these things or anything at time of diagnosis but once they realize the deficit they should read or do something to fix the gap of knowledge which doesn’t seem to be happening here. Not familiar with how the system works for this type of thing but now I feel the mom calling you may well be a cry for help. Hope other posters versed in this field can step in with more concrete advice on how to make that happen.
     
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    That's what the therapists are trying. Just by talking to her, I know they are facing an uphill battle because she thinks his symptoms are very mild and not as severe as they are all telling her.

    Which is why I was gently prodding to go to the therapist specialized in taking care of special needs parents. She knows the process and helps them cope while they find ways to help their child. Honestly, I get very annoyed when she says its a waste of money and they know nothing. Anyway, there are only so many resources to share. Groups, meetings, websites, books. Moms with older kids tell me how hard it was without these groups. It's a blessing. We do need to take the first steps and go there!

    Yesterday my DH told me that you can take the horse to the water. You can't make it drink. I hope continued involvement in Kid's therapy will help her find purpose and get her into positive action mode. I've been reiterating that therapy is not standalone, we have to work at home. If we don't therapists know and they don't put in as much effort on your child!
     
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    True. Our ST said to me in the beginning. I am happy you are very much active in your kids development.
    She said she stops her therapy services if the parents are not involved
     
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    @Laks09 remember i have talked about a boy, whose maternal grandparents were in denial, and said if we pray to god he will be fine, they were ashamed of the boy being autistic, that they deprived him of any therapy or classes, or sessions that could have helped him. the parents of the boy, after lots of prep talks, finally put him in a special needs school, very late..the kid is hitting puberty, and is handful, that no cousin wants to be in the vicinity of the kid..so sad.. the stigma, attached to special needs has to go..

    your dh, rightly says, the horse can be taken to the water.but it has to drink..

    how important it is atleast for one parent to be dedicated and involved in situations like this..both being in denial, and using the kid as a punch bag, is bad.. oh please hug the kid for us too..

    A strong determined mom, can make things possible.. we do have a resovoir of grit and determination and ofcourse develop truck loads of patience and if our family is supportive, it is like a crown added..

    hope she gets into acceptance and standing up for the kid mode soon.. if she is in a group that you are, just start sharing successful stories of kids..how parental love, therapy helped..someone, something hits the right note for them. i know you are part of these groups, and there would be successful stories there..

    amd take care of yourself, remember you can only do so much, even if she is your friend..
     
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    One good thing is she is in USA.
    Not much stigma as in India .
    I am worried about the kid. Both parents are fighting. Not a good environment for kids growth.
    It's a waste of kids time if parents are in denial for a long period.
     
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