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Doctors; Demi-gods Or Demons?

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Thyagarajan said: ↑

Yes I do concur but I edited my response feedback after your response. I trust you would view this.
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Perfect, Sir.

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Hi Geeta ma'am,

Well as always it was very informational We hear about these kind of incidents very often... I always have a question, will our system make some efforts to change these kind of mafias? I really doubt!

Frankly speaking neither the patients nor the family members will be able to think calmly during the emergency....even if we are little sick our family members would start panicking and unintentionally we will be pushed to the next level of sickness. (personal experience)

Secondly they would try to find the best multispecialty hospitals. Ignore about the time invested in travelling.

Thirdly call the ambulance wala and that man would act as if he is the savior and start demanding as much as possible. (neighbors experience) He will be more generous!!

Finally, reach the hospital and family members will not let the patients talk during the emergency, may be they think patients may not be as bad as them in explaining the situation. I am not blaming the kith and kin but they should try to stay calm... Yeah, now the fox gets it's chance....oh, my god then they start their dramas which can easily win the Oscar at the cost of victims money

They will ask the patients relatives to sign the consent document may be they would ask them to sign even if the patient has some basic issues....

Ok now back to the family...they may not be aware this is something very common these days, i.e to sign the consent document...most important this dialogue would be said in front of the patients...so when he opens his eyes he will have to think twice whether he is in hell or heaven I am serious before entering the ICU if this is what u hear and when u open the eyes we will definitely have this doubt. Yes, I did have

You know, what...like any other jobs even doctors have some targets to be met... Shocking I think this is also one of the common things may be I was late to know about it.

How mean...This profession is not meant for money making..even after taking oath why don't they do their duties...If they can't why do they even choose to take this up and quell the innocents.

Hatsoff to the once you really take this as a service to the society....

Thanks Geeta ma'am...

Before I forget the most funny and shameful thing sending the dead body to those basic tests to confirm the patient is dead How crazy
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Yes it is there in news item in the Hindu of 1st or 2nd July 18. In a car accident one was declared dead by a para medic and for almost three days the supposed to be dead was in mortuary. A casual woman attenant
Noticed life in the body and alerted the authorities concerned.
Para medic apologised but the kith and lib are a happy lot after grieving bereving.
God plays with life or is it medical science or is it miracle.
Thanks to you wonder/fear ful observations.
REGARDS.

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(The intention of this article is not to hurt anyone from the esteemed medical profession. All the cases mentioned here are true. The intention of this article is just to draw the attention of ordinary people and alert them.)

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Hospitals are our life-saving institutions and the doctors are the demigods! On a visit to a hospital, different people experience different things. Though healthcare is a service like any other service, since it deals with the lives of people, it has to be delivered and received with a different attitude and sensitivity.

When our dear one’s life is in danger and we meet the doctor, how do we perceive him? A demi-god, a person who can fetch our loved one back from the jaws of death, isn’t it? There are innumerable positive stories about doctors and their extraordinary commitment to their profession. Many patients have undergone excellent treatment and they have really been pulled out from the jaws of death.

Again what do we feel when we realize that the service was not up to the mark or there was some real goof up which could have resulted in the death of the patient or resulted in the death of the patient? The same doctor turns a demon in the eyes of the patient's relatives! These days, often patient's relatives lose cool, assault doctors and damage hospital property. This is wrong and such behaviour must be condemned.

This is where the controversy begins. The doctor turned demigod, turns into a plain demon! Allegations and counter allegations begin to fly wild. Then what? It is the survival of the fittest! One cannot deny the mighty power of money and position. If we have the money power, manpower and a concrete proof, we can take the case forward and fight it out in the court of law. Still, there is no promise or guarantee of justice. Life and time lost can never be made up. If not….we have to suffer in silence, swallow our pride and compromise. Most often doctors support the erring members of their fraternity and the hospitals. So we cannot expect any help or cooperation from them when things go wrong. With time the public forgets everything and it is indeed in their best interest to forget and go back to the same doctors when another health issue strikes! Lately, Health management has become a corporate business; major treatments have predetermined rates and the patients have very little choice over the rates charged. After managing the said amount, patient and his relatives are totally at the mercy of these demi-gods.

Case 1

Last year there was a news item that showed two bickering doctors, gynaecologist Ashok Nainwal and anaesthetist M L Tak, inside the operation theatre at the Umaid Women and Children Hospital. The said doctors entered into a verbal spat over checking the heartbeat of the child. One of the doctors later walked out of the operation theatre. The child succumbed due to falling pulse rate, according to Amilal Bhat, principal of the S N Medical College, which runs the hospital.

The incident went viral after somebody present in the delivery room made a video of the development.

Source: WATCH: As doctors argue inside delivery room, woman loses child - Rediff.com India News

Case 2

An octogenarian had a heart attack two years ago and Angiography results showed major blockages in all the coronary arteries. Doctors summoned the patient’s children and sought clearance for the next line of treatment i.e., an open heart surgery or clearing the blockages and placing medicated stents. The family with limited medical knowledge weighed the pros and cons. In view of the age of the patient and the presence of other co-morbid conditions, they consulted a cardiac surgeon of repute. After going through the reports, the doctor declared that ‘the patient is sitting on a Time-bomb’. The very next day, Angioplasty was scheduled and a ‘package’ price was quoted. The patient’s relatives could not seek clarifications or even consult other doctors due to the scare induced by the doctor and the loss of precious time in that process. The very next day the patient underwent Angioplasty and he was out of danger.

Soon after he was shifted into a CCCU where patient’s caretakers have minimal access and the highest standards of treatment are supposed to be given here. Signatures of caretakers on several papers were taken thereby ensuring the safety of hospital! That night patient’s relatives were shooed away and trusting the reputation of the hospital, patient’s relatives went home. The next day, early morning when the relatives went to the hospital, they discovered from the patient and the surgeon himself that this diabetic octogenarian had not been fed at night and as a result, he started hallucinating. This was discovered when the surgeon happened to visit the CCCU at 5 am! (God bless him and his commitment to his profession.) He found the patient incoherent and hypoglycemic. Since the patient's hands had many tubes attached and feet were bound to the bed (to prevent leg movement) he could not call the nurses or ward-boys, and they never visited him through the night! When the incident was discovered, the surgeon shouted at the nurses and arranged for immediate food and to some extent, the patient was stabilised. Anyone with Diabetes would know that it takes a really a long time for the hypoglycemic symptoms to subside, more so in an aged ailing patient.

(Without food and medication, a diabetic might get severe symptoms of hypoglycemia like poor coordination, poor concentration, numbness in the mouth and tongue, passing out, nightmares or bad dreams and even death.)

When the matter was taken up with the highest authority of the hospital, he accepted the mistake and assured the relatives of launching an enquiry and taking suitable action. They were to shift the patient to the ward that day, then due to the paucity of beds, unnecessarily the patient was retained in the CCCU for an additional day and discharged directly from there, under the pretext of ‘additional observation’, which was a plain lie.

Here points to be noted are, the hospital was not ready to offer the patient the pre-selected class of room and when they had problems with the beds, instead of offering the next best option to the patient (thereby making a loss for themselves but maintaining the highest standard of service) they chose to keep him in the CCCU and extract more charges and that difference running into several thousand. When the relatives wanted to make an official written complaint, the hospital administrative staff personally requested the patient to forgive, forget and not make an official complaint. Relatives of other patients who have had previous bad experience shared their experiences of ‘Doctors' mafia’ which maligns the patient and in future, the patient would not be attended to by any other doctor and so on. So finally the patient’s relatives decided to keep quiet and also give an ‘excellent’ feedback to the hospital.

Case 3

A patient was hospitalised with a severe allergy at night, but the specialist never visited the patient that night. Over the phone, he guided the duty doctors and the treatment was carried on in this way for one and half days. When the doctor visited the patient he was irritated because the patient asked some relevant questions regarding her medical condition and she also pointed out the incompetence of the duty doctors and nurses. Instead of addressing the concerns of an informed patient, he chose to be rude to her and even advised her to trust his staff and take treatment. Being unhappy with the way treatment was going on and on, she voluntarily took discharge after a week and improved her health at home with homoeopathy.

Case 4

A patient went into surgery. In her own words, “The OT was unclean with plastics strewn all over; surgery was delayed by over 30-40 minutes because the surgeon was busy fighting in the adjoining room with some of their staff over the theft of her expensive footwear the previous day at the same OT!"

Case 5

A patient became semi-conscious during surgery and heard all the indecent talk the doctors were having at her expense. She could not react as she was still under partial sedation. When she recovered, she decided to ignore the whole stuff instead of fighting a case as she had no proof at her end!

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These days with the mounting fees and medical expenses, consulting a doctor or getting hospitalized is very stressful. With the reliability of most doctors and the hospitals under question, what can the patient and his /her families do to protect themselves (partly)?

They must seek second and third opinions before undergoing any major hospitalisation or procedure. Seek the guidance from any known doctor or a well-informed person and gather enough knowledge about the procedure involved. The caretakers should stay alert, they shouldn't trust the medical fraternity blindly, they should keep a track of the doctor and nurses' talk and keep an eye on the drugs administered by the nurses.(!) They should preserve every bit of paper related to the hospitalisation and treatment till the patient recovers after discharge. Above all, hope and pray for good luck!

But what about the mental condition of the patient if he has to worry about so many things? Will there be any good-will or faith at work here? Who is responsible for this situation?

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My fil was in the hospital and we had all experiences . Only happy news is he returned safely . Well writted Geeta.

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As a rejoinder to my previous response I add the following:
Breaking News, World News & Multimedia archive
It refers to famous New York hospital done operation on the wrong side of the brain and hospital admitted to their wrong doing.
The patient wrongly operated for tumour was MOTHER Rajeswari Ayyappan OF late actress SRIDEVI in 1995. The doctor surgeon entered OP theatre with x ray of another patient's brain and proceeded with his scalpel. Instead of Right, left was done thanks to careless surgeon. Consolation is such quirky things happens in USA too.
God save His universe from slipshod surgeons.

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My fil was in the hospital and we had all experiences . Only happy news is he returned safely . Well writted Geeta.
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All is well, that ends well. As patients, we have to be more alert and educated at least about our case. These days a fair amount of information can be procured from various sites on the internet.

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As a rejoinder to my previous response I add the following:
Breaking News, World News & Multimedia archive
It refers to famous New York hospital done operation on the wrong side of the brain and hospital admitted to their wrong doing.
The patient wrongly operated for tumour was MOTHER Rajeswari Ayyappan OF late actress SRIDEVI in 1995. The doctor surgeon entered OP theatre with x ray of another patient's brain and proceeded with his scalpel. Instead of Right, left was done thanks to careless surgeon. Consolation is such quirky things happens in USA too.
God save His universe from slipshod surgeons.
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Yes, I recall reading about this sad case. When such things happen...patients are the total losers. No amount of compensation can bring back the lost health or the life.

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Recently a friend of mine shared the following You Tube video. It is an eye opener on the crumbling health system in India. The unholy nexus between our political system, the greedy corporates and the health professionals is hurting the common man very badly. This video suddenly made me realise how blessed I am and whatever hurt I am feeling is simply nothing when compared to the troubles our poor fellow Indians go through. This video is lengthy but it is worth every second of every concerned and aware Indian. Please share it with your friends as knowledge and awareness is the real strength and power.

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Incredible India to Incurable India to Hopeless India. I had seen the incurable India video earlier on YouTube. This current scenario jolts us out of our slumber.

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