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Do would-be Victims get attracted to would-be Abusers, and vice versa

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  1. ChennaiExpress

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    As I'm recovering from a short, yet abusive and traumatic marriage, certain thoughts, feelings, insights, etc are coming up.

    From childhood when I did something wrong and made mistakes, I was told that my husband would beat me so bad he would send me to the hospital.

    As I got older and did something wrong and made mistakes, I was told that my husband would get angry and irritated at me.

    When we were looking for matrimonial alliances, I had to choose from people who were less than the very best because I simply wasn't good enough.

    But even in the professional world when I was feeling particularly low, one person who was in management, who was pretending to be a mentor and have my best interest at heart asked me if it's ok if he yells at me and tries to correct me, and I said sure. Naturally, I wanted to excel so later in life I would get the Man of my Dreams. Things went downhill at the former job but luckily, God found me a better job where I am now productive and learning every day.

    Few years ago when we tried matrimonial search again, there was someone I was very attracted to. In his online profile that I was stalking, he was showing that he is a sweetheart and totally sensitive. Yet, I had negative vibes about him, but I pushed that down. I couldn't stop thinking of him, and even lost sleep just stalking his online profile.

    My elders thought this person was "too good" for me, and asked me to settle for someone who was cute, but not from a good family. That was ok with me, but even days before my wedding, I was still obsessing about this other guy.

    Fast forward about a year, we all know this monster I married was a fraud, was abusive, unfaithful, and when I confided in him about how low I feel about myself, instead of encouraging me, he pushed me down further. As a matter of fact if I did something correct, without mistakes, he would say I did wrong and would argue for 2 hours while I tried to calm him down. I let him make me believe I was a bad wife.

    Now, God has been kind and kicked this monster out.

    But the monster is still within. I reverted to stalking the online profile of the guy who my elders thought was "too good" for me, and I found some disturbing things.

    - in one friendship site, he said one of his favorite movies is Stepmom. This is where a succesful lawyer divorces his wife who spent her life sacrificing and caring for her family. Instead he lives with this younger, hipper girlfriend. In the movie, the girlfriend and discarded wife learn to get along, while the scumbag father has his biological desires met

    - in another social networking site, he lies about his location. In one place he says he's from one city, in another place, he says he's from another city

    - I managed to correlate data to find he has a private instagram account where he doesn't use his real name, or real cell phone number but flirts with women online. Instead he has a KIK and BBM account and gives his account name so anyone can anonymously chat with him. He posts pics of himself so women who don't know his real name, contact info, etc will compliment his pics. Then he puts other pictures to show he is sweet and sensitive, i.e. pictures of puppies, phrases such as "I was busy keeping our relationship while you were busy keeping secrets". Putting these posters with kind words and phrases is something my abusive ex would do on Facebook. But if words are the tree, then actions are the fruits.

    - he keeps his Facebook account either very private, or disabled, while his friends he has known and grown up with keeps it public, and even posts pics of their wives and children. He's a grown male, no one is going to kidnap and exploit him!


    So I am seeing all these facts and then I am thinking, "only God can bring us together" which is good, because at least I am now acknowledging that God is the one who is in control, not people.

    But now I am kind of disturbed at the way I was thinking. I escaped from one abusive relationship, yet I am holding onto hopes that I will correspond with this person even though when I see his online persona, especially where he is trying to hide his identity, I wouldn't want my enemy to marry this person.

    One one hand, I have heard of success stories where people go into second marriage and it is the most happiest thing (see my signature).

    On the other hand, I am now remembering that my aunt was the victim-type. She got married three times, all males were physically and emotionally abusive. And she also allowed herself to be physically abused by one of her sisters in front of one of her young nieces.

    So now I am allowing the healing process to take place. I am yet to read "7 habits of highly effective people" or join Toastmasters, because I'm trying other things such as meditation twice a day (it's making small, yet noticeable and positive changes), and making time for hobbies that nourish my soul.


    I feel really good to have typed this up, I was holding this for several days. On one hand I was baking cookies, on the other hand, I was looking at how far I came, and looking forward to the things to come.

    I hope this post helps people in similar situations, so they can also heal. The people at IL have given great encouragement, and the action to change comes from ourselves alone. :yes:
     
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  2. raji2678

    raji2678 Gold IL'ite

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    I feel that your elders have really brought down your confidence. Please go for counselling and therapy before getting married again
     
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  3. ChennaiExpress

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    As a matter of fact I am practicing meditation and mindfulness ... There is increased research that using this in therapy has reaped great results. Irony is this has been around for thousands of years but only now Western medicine is incorporating this.


    Also basic things like making time for enjoyable activities that harness creativity, knitting, crocheting, baking, etc .... It makes one "be in the moment" allowing repressed thoughts to come up and be acknowledged, just like meditation.


    I hope this thread will help others in similar situation because I"ve gotten more insights from this site than from offline....
     
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    Its a psychology of 'male machismo' that all of us girls have drilled into us right from childhood.
    Look at Disney, ALLLL their stories involve a naive girl waiting for a prince to rescue her. Every movie begins and ends with a damsel in distress. Any woman who is strong and wants a career is usually a negative character.
    As a society, i think it downgrades women automatically. We think a brash,rugged,macho strong guy who can act arrogant with strangers is a hero_Often we hear statements like 'Oh that lady is so brash. Her husband is the one to be blamed. He should take her to a corner and give a tight slap'.
    Abusing the wife or hitting her to prove a point is often considered a cool thing. I watched the movie Lingaa on friday. I took objection to a particular scene where a 'tamilian' hits his 'foreigner english' wife in front of another englishman just to prove that indians are superior. I felt agitated. What did the scene mean to convey to us?

    I think its this basic notion in our mind that attracts us to abusers. It makes us live in constant denial that it is 'ok for men to hit their wives'.

    I am glad that you are out of the abusive life and are independant now. But I would say dont let 'marriage' be the definition of a happy life. Marriage should not be you ultimate destination. You can enjoy the journey of life, and ONLY if you get the right person should you choose to share it with them. All the best.
     
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    For the moment forget about guys and concentrate on yourself, be selfish and indulge in things you genuinely enjoy (not just things you think are good for you). Spend time with your friends, go out and socialise… whatever it is that you choose to do, make sure it is fun for you.


    When you think you are ready for a relationship, go on dates, spend time with the person you feel a connection with, get to know the person and then make a decision. Please don’t rush into anything.
     
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    My God what a disturbing scene!

    My ex enjoyed watching Tamil movies and Bollywood movies where women were slapped, publicly stripped, raped, etc

    Once we were watching a serial where a girl was being slapped by her crush and she was smiling because he was giving her attention. My ex joked that if he or his mother ever slap me I should also smile.

    This will be happiest Christmas with the parties and overeating because that monster will not be there to spoil the mood .....

    When I feel I am slipping into unhealthy mindset or making excuses for red flags I say "God, you made me, to you I am your masterpiece, please give my Heart to someone who deserves it"
     
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    @ChennaiExpress Great that you got rid of that scumbag. Now just focus on your self before looking out for someone. Build your confidence. With friends or through groups, go for hiking, biking or even running marathon. Everyday, in the evening, write down things you plan to accomplish the next day. In the morning, review the tasks you plan to complete and pray to God to help you accomplish those. As you complete, make big tick mark in the book. Doing this everyday will increase your confidence and you will feel proud of yourself. Also write down what new things you learnt on that day. This will help you remember new things that you learnt and also encourage you to learn new things. Try it out.
     
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    That is a great idea!

    There are so many things I wish to do and I stress over how it will get done.

    i will write the evening before and pray for God's help
     
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    CE,Your story is very inspirational. I am sure many of us will find take-home points from it. I glad that your made u turn in your life in regards to your self esteem. It is the callous remarks from the society, that drives us into the ground. I wish you best. I am very upset with the elders in your childhood who were making those comments. Did you grow in India or in US? Were these elders your parents or relatives?Please let us know, with specific points, that you changed in your professional, social, family life.Something like: will you answer back to some relative if they say mean things. Did you start leaving work at 5, not staying after 5 Did you stop sharing much info at workI am inspired by you, so curious.
     
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    Dear OP,
    While you had a traumatic experience with your ex, comparing his fb posts, movie preferences to another mans preferences and thinking the next man is abusive too is not fair.
    Also you are working on your self development this is commendable. This needs the most emphasis at this time.

    The obsession you have on this missed match guy is not healthy for your emotional recovery. See even if this person is interested in you, he would want you without any emotional baggage, and stalking to this extent of knowing specific posts and alter ego ids is very put offing to the person. Keeping private fb id or hidden is not a red flag. It's someone who values their privacy man or woman.

    So in a nut shell, work on becoming strong independent and emotionally whole ( no flash backs, thinking of your ex doesn't make you sad anymore), then when you meet the right person for you, everything will work out.

    To answer the opening question, yes victims do attract abusers the classic victim has " I will be whoever my partner wants to be, I just want to make them happy", in their mind , that with some inner need to be accepted completely for what they are. This is classic abuser magnet. I was one such magnet, so I know it only too well.

    good luck
     
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