Same Sex Marriage - Discussion Thread

1. Relationship/marriage is a commitment. Sexual orientation is immaterial.

2. For understanding/empathy, forcing a homosexual person to stay in a heterosexual marriage is like forcing a heterosexual to kiss or make love with someone of same gender.

3. Marriage is man-made. Nothing natural about it. If it was not a societal norm, at least 50 % of men would not have lived in and raised families.

4. Nobody will 'become' homosexual because it is legalized.

5. Some people just have sex and get children. Children are not consulted if they want that or not. Many are not loved, valued and cared for. Many end up abused and abandoned. People who undergo treatments and get children really want an offspring and that in itself ensures to a great extent that the child will be valued. Most gays adopt as well.

When gender based roles in families are becoming vague with mothers working and supporting financially and dads cooking dinners, gender of parents is immaterial. All kids need is a loving family environment where they see partners loving, arguing and making up, caring for each other etc. Anything more is overrated.

Humans have come so far from natural ways that now it is pointless to look at only certain things that make you uncomfortable and claim that that's not natural. But here is some endorsement from nature :
Homosexual behavior in animals - Wikipedia

 

Sorry but this response is steeped in ignorance. There is a lot of material out there on explaining gender fluidity if you wish to learn further. Also personal choice does matter.

What is termed as a legal union between cousins in India and certain communities around the world, is already termed incest. So, culturally we are already accepting of incest.

People who do not appreciate what rhey haven't experienced and were brought up to believe rigidly marriage only consists of a male and a female partner, do continue to judge anything different.

Teach kids to be accepting and you have a better society.

 

Bisexual merely means an individual is attracted to both males and females. It doesn't have to "fit" into a marriage. Since marriage is a commitment, people just have to commit to one another of either sex. That's all. (Much like how heterosexual people have to commit and not sleep with anyone else from the other gender) commitment remains the same.

People have been going down the route of open marriages for ages. and yes. in India too. They haven't waited for permission or laws to making that legal. Being gay or acceptance of the same has nothing to do with making a society more decrepit.

Being gay or lesbian or bisexual or transgendered or androgynous has absolutely nothing to do with a moral standing. Nothing at all. They are people who have certain preferences about their sexuality. The reason -personal preference / hormonal- is immaterial. The result again does not matter. Judging their morality based on this is completely wrong.

I appreciate where you come from. Your religion forbids it and you do not want to question it. However religion does ask for tolerance and also makes it clear that it isn't man's place to judge.

 

God created Eve from Adam's rib. That is God created woman - as a part of man. To show that woman was created from the same stuff as man and that they are the one and the same.

God did not create Eve to mate with Adam. Just to be his partner. And him to be hers. The male/female bonding is something brought up later into scriptures by humans.

 

I am compelled to share my snippet here: A Penny For Your Thoughts: Traditional Marraige And Gay Marriage Concepts . Same-sex marriages are not a fairly new development.

 

Its the other way round. Societal norms have more power over human desires. Why honour killings happen in India? Why parents are against love marriages? Why most men choose a woman for marriage based on how much wealth he and his family will gain? Some men are homosexuals, but Indian society doesn't accept them, so they marry a girl to appear good for the society, while he continues his relationships for pleasure outside of marriage.
What is acceptable in the society changes, but changes very very slowly. Its hardly been a year since gay marriages are legalised. May be after 40-50 years this would be a very normally accepted custom across several cultures. People tune themselves as the society changes.

About kids, want to add a thought here - not sue about previous posts. What matters is the motherly nature in a father and the fatherly nature in a mother. Or a father figure and a mother figure. A person's sexual orientation should not be linked to how he/she will care for the child.