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I am in AUS from 2013. I absolutely love it here.
But yes, Sydney people are not as friendly as we would like them to be - racism might be a big word , I choose to use "unfriendly".
I am in Melbourne now - working , living with DH and 2 kids. I love this place. So many Indians around. I am a .net developer and got a job in less than a month.
Job search works differently here. You gotta have a very strong online profile backed up by some nice recommendations. In today's world competition is everywhere in every field. Its how you tackle the market that defines your capability.
Most of the jobs work via agencies. you can have a look at seek.com to give you an idea of opening at the moment.
PR rules are relaxed a bit than what it was earlier. Citizenship is not as difficult as in US.
I find Australia much safer than some parts of the US, but yes every nation has it own positives and negatives.
It all depends on what are your priorities and what is your lifestyle.

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You may find that the immigration process for Australia is a lot shorter in the long run.. ie getting permanent residence status and eventually citizenship. I've heard that a green card (US) can take about a decade and even that may drag on. Australian cities consistently come in the top 10 when it comes to quality of life and lifestyle. Crime rate is pretty low, especially gun crime which is definitely different from the US. The proximity to India is a big plus depending on which city you live in. Nowadays there is a relatively large Indian community in all the major cities like Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane, Perth etc. A major difference you may notice is the cost of living though - especially house prices in Australian cities are likely to be a lot higher than in the US
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Thank you. Yes the immigration process is much simpler than that in the US. As I have mentioned in the earlier posts , I absolutely loved being in the US.hubby too. Since we don't have a first hand experience of the life in Australia , it just got me worried. Thanks a lot for your time and inputs.

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I am in AUS from 2013. I absolutely love it here.
But yes, Sydney people are not as friendly as we would like them to be - racism might be a big word , I choose to use "unfriendly".
I am in Melbourne now - working , living with DH and 2 kids. I love this place. So many Indians around. I am a .net developer and got a job in less than a month.
Job search works differently here. You gotta have a very strong online profile backed up by some nice recommendations. In today's world competition is everywhere in every field. Its how you tackle the market that defines your capability.
Most of the jobs work via agencies. you can have a look at seek.com to give you an idea of opening at the moment.
PR rules are relaxed a bit than what it was earlier. Citizenship is not as difficult as in US.
I find Australia much safer than some parts of the US, but yes every nation has it own positives and negatives.
It all depends on what are your priorities and what is your lifestyle.
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This is the kind of information I was looking for. With regards to job experience, I have worked in the US and hubby has travelled to and worked in client facing roles in over 3 different countries. Do you think this would give us some advantage in the companies that expect a local Australian experience? What kind of recommendation are we talking here? The ones from our previous managers and companies?

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I heard negatives from my friend who left good tech job in india and moved to Auz. According to her, non-auz work experience is not counted and that until u get local exp, u will end up doing entry level job. She went with family. Hubby also couldnt find a job esp after 12+ years of exp. they came back in 6 months. Another frnd opened a restaurant after failed job searches. I am speaking on behalf of these frnds...esp women . I have never been there though. You can techically restart ur H1 within 6 years of last leaving it. The remaining part of your H1 doesnt go waste.
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That is sad. Thanks for telling us about the struggle people migrating to Australia might face. You know , if I could , I would choose US in the blink of an eye. Unfortunately , hubby doesn't seem to have that option right now. Hey and yes , Australian citizens have a cap exempt visa option to US too.

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I've been in Australia for 10 years now and we absolutely love it here. Winters are milder than the US. Especially in places like Brisbane and Perth - it feels like you are living in India.

The pay is great if you've got experience but the house prices are much higher in comparison to the US. It is a very safe place to raise kids and you don't have to worry about gun crime ever.

Our reasons to live in Australia were the proximity to home (and Asia), much better working conditions, work life balance, friendly people and weather.

You can have a look at job websites like seek or local government websites to get an idea of the kind of jobs you would get. No one can guarantee the job environment though. I've seen experienced people waiting for 4 months to get a job and inexperienced getting a job within weeks. Really just depends on the timing and your experience.

Good luck.
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Thank you so much for the inputs. Job wise I think one of us would definitely have a job and only then travel there while the other person can settle down and start looking for job.

I have had sleepless nights thinking if this move would be good for my daughter. With all the news coverage about the hate crimes way back in 2009 and a murder of the techie in PAramatta park last year , I was so worried.

Good to hear that people like you who stay there for over a decade recommend it for raising a child. Thanks once again

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I was in Sydney from 2004-2006. I don't know now but when I was there I felt the racism esp. towards people who looked like they have not assimilated themselves into the Australian culture, it's something you don't feel in US, Canada, or UK.

Despite of this, I actually enjoyed living there than here in Toronto. You should really give it a go.

Jobwise, it is the same for most countries like Canada, they prefer somebody with local experience but don't give up. My yougest sil hired a consultant and got a job in Melbourne, just recently she was transferred by the company to UK.
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So consultants are one way of looking for a job. Thanks

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This is the kind of information I was looking for. With regards to job experience, I have worked in the US and hubby has travelled to and worked in client facing roles in over 3 different countries. Do you think this would give us some advantage in the companies that expect a local Australian experience? What kind of recommendation are we talking here? The ones from our previous managers and companies?
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Yes and No.
I worked until the day I boarded my flights in India. I worked for a top MNC in India and for clients from US, UK and Malaysia.
I chose to stay home for a couple of years because DS was 2 and DD was 5 when we moved to Australi. This was DDs first ever culture shock - the english accent at achool was totally new, new people, surroundings, no friends and we did not want to send Ds (aged 2) to child care when we ourselves were adjusting to new lifestyle.
Later when i started looking for work in 2015, many ppl asked for local exp. I volunteered for a few weeks with an NGO here. It did not help much. Everyone questioned my gap in career.
We later moved to melbourne for DH's work. I attempted again. Here an agent suggested that I should mention the reason for gap as a part of my resume which I did. In less than a month I got a job.
what I am trying to say is there are people who do not have local exp and still get jobs. There are ppl who have loads of local exp but have not got jobs. It all depends on how you ace your CV.

By recommendations I mean strong linkedIn presence. There are companies who also look at your facebook profile to estimate what kind of a person is the candidate that came for interview.

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Yes and No.
I worked until the day I boarded my flights in India. I worked for a top MNC in India and for clients from US, UK and Malaysia.
I chose to stay home for a couple of years because DS was 2 and DD was 5 when we moved to Australi. This was DDs first ever culture shock - the english accent at achool was totally new, new people, surroundings, no friends and we did not want to send Ds (aged 2) to child care when we ourselves were adjusting to new lifestyle.
Later when i started looking for work in 2015, many ppl asked for local exp. I volunteered for a few weeks with an NGO here. It did not help much. Everyone questioned my gap in career.
We later moved to melbourne for DH's work. I attempted again. Here an agent suggested that I should mention the reason for gap as a part of my resume which I did. In less than a month I got a job.
what I am trying to say is there are people who do not have local exp and still get jobs. There are ppl who have loads of local exp but have not got jobs. It all depends on how you ace your CV.

By recommendations I mean strong linkedIn presence. There are companies who also look at your facebook profile to estimate what kind of a person is the candidate that came for interview.
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You have been such a great help. Thank you so much.

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You have been such a great help. Thank you so much.
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anytime. please ask your questions and I shall answer as much as I can.
I can tell you one thing for sure. Its just the agencies that you have to impress first. Once the agents are happy with you and your CV, then comes your tech skills and interviews. But if the agent is not happy,they will not bother forwarding the CV to the clients.
Unlike India, where we apply on naukri and monster and we will be bombarded with calls,here its us who will have to call the agents to have a look at our CV and that we applied for so-and-so jobs etc.
First part of the job interview lies with the agent.

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Also I would totally recommend raising a kid here. I myself am a mom of 2 kids and am happy we moved to Australia. Kids love it here. I know my kids are safer here than elsewhere

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