Rip Priyanka Reddy:(

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  1. Sunshine04

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    Why make it personal? This seemed really harsh. People are also worried about their cousins/sisters/colleagues/friends trying to get home from work on the ring road.

    I agree there is due process but in every country there are instances where people go overboard. Eg; Aaron Persky - He let Brock Turner go with a mild sentence. The outrage is understandable. People did band together and vote him out of his judicial bench. Then, when he got the job of a coach, did the people of Santa Clara give up? No, they got him fired for a judicial mistake he made. He wasn’t even the rapist in question. Do you fault those moms for not wanting this man around their teens?

    People are probably not rejoicing that four men were shot dead as much as they are relived at the thought that their kin won’t have to deal with these four or that there is some measure of comfort for the family of the girl who was so badly brutalized. I hope the family is able to grieve and get some solace.
     
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    About the wife: She seems coaxed to pray her husband. A man who did what he did to an innocent girl might have put his wife through a lot of treatment too ... but yet... she has to get his back...like its her life's purpose.
    Now that he is gone, and his back is gone, she doe not see a purpose for her life.

    Although consciously murdering some one is cruel... I am trying hard to bring myself to accept its the only choice for justice.

    'Quick Trial' is a stone carved oxymoron in India.
     
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    Will the cops act the same if the perverts had political or financial influence is a big question!

    See what happened with Pollachi case. Goonda act was dropped against 2 and those perverts are eligible for bail now ! Maybe they are already out.

    Though most of us wouldn’t favor this type of fake encounters there’s no hope with the country’s Law and Order.
     
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    One rape accused was a union minister some time ago and was not relieved of ministry as he is only accused and not convicted ...

    but the rules don’t apply to all ....

    and our people who are rejoicing also elected criminals including terror accused to positions
     
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    Ideally, the judicial system would deliver the justice that was delivered and would deliver it in a timely manner. There is no hope from that system. Expecting or asking people to continue to have faith in that system for such heinous crimes is a state of things we can talk about only in theory.

    Those of us who are not denouncing it and calling it OK with reservations understand that it is not totally correct or ideal. We also understand that an innocent might get killed or jailed. That happens within the judicial system also - people imprisoned wrongly for years or decades or put to death. We view the percentage of such wrongs done by the judicial system and the possible percentage of wrongs from non-judicial dispensing of justice, and conclude, albeit reluctantly, that what happened was OK.

    Rather than berate those who say it is OK or ridicule those who denounce it, I would lay the blame where it belongs - a judicial system broken beyond hopes of being fixed in our lifetimes for many of us. Such encounters or the need for these should push those in charge of the judicial system to speed up its fixing. Give people reasonable cause to trust the system and the public will stop celebrating encounters.

    About the even one innocent killed argument, I'd say how about: after this encounter, even 10 women who now have the courage to go out at night, even 5 girls whose parents do not forbid them from staying out late, even 1 girl whose parents do not stop her education due to the risk of rape/ molestation/ eve-teasing, even 5 potential rapists, eve-teasers who think twice.

    The country will go the way of Pakistan etc. and democracy, rule of the law will be lost - not likely. If anything, a few more cases where such gruesome rapes result in speedy arrests but years of court case will cause people to slowly lose faith in democracy and the judicial system ever improving. That loss of faith is a bigger danger than the chance of such encounters becoming the norm.

    The police are being felicitated and appreciated, but hopefully, people will realize that the police only acts on the order of higher-ups including top government officials at the peak of their administrative careers and strategy-savvy politicians. If any inquiry happens, the lowly inspectors or police station in-charge should not lose their job or get transferred to remote place as a consequence or to take the fall.

    The woman's family will perhaps never know pure joy or peace again, but hopefully the outpouring of support will provide some solace. I wish them simple reliefs like a few hours of rest and sleep with the mind blissfully quiet.
     
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    It is wishful thinking that condoning a wrong for emotional reason will result in any good.

    once you heed to mob , then there is no turning back.

    have to commend Delhi police who took so much abuse and pressure but did not take any shortcuts and proved in courts that accused are actual culprits At the time of nirbhaya ....
     
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    Everything could not have been done in the right way. Else this would not have happened. If police had made an air-tight case the court would not have granted bail.

    This is exactly why false encounters are not the answer. Police would not have done this to rich, powerful, politically backed criminals. In fact, such cases are investigated in such a way that a good lawyer can set the criminals free. Police, instead of doing their job in a commendable way, went rogue on few nobodys of the society.

    We should be worried about this false encounter as much as the rape since it could happen to innocents that police wants to eliminate, may be even to protect the real people behind a crime.
     
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    I wonder what the logic of hiding the victim's name is. It seems to imply that the shame is on the victim. At the same time calling them names such as Nirbhaya or Dhairya is so ridiculous - it seems to attribute a kind of heroic nature to them as if it was something that happened by their choice and which they faced boldly. Do we know what they went on in their minds when they were undergoing the ordeal? How do such platitudes help? By acting as a sop to the collective conscience of our wretched society? They were victims. They deserve quick justice. That would be a better way of paying our respects to them and our sincere sympathies to their families. Trying to glorify them with such names will not undo the injustice that has happened to them.
     

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