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Discussion in 'Relationship With In-Laws' started by sunshine2017, Sep 24, 2019.

  1. Vaikuntha

    Vaikuntha Platinum IL'ite

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    Sorry OP
    But looks like you have a very biased opinion about yourself. Everyone is bad but you are good. Bil is black and you are white, both are sheep.
    You can be loved or hated but noone is “allowed” to ignore you.
    Do you have a SIL? If you had one, you would be happy for BIL.
    Please dont leave your daughter in his house as @Amulet said, irrespective of him beibg good or bad bil.
     
  2. sunshine2017

    sunshine2017 New IL'ite

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    He just ignores anyone who has hurt his mom or brother even once.
    He doesn't care if things are cordial now.But coming to my own house and ignoring me on face value and missing out on my functions is not something I would appreciate.

    About his relation with my husband,my husband is very formal with his brother.Because of his nature.You never know when he might start holding grudges.

    Regarding my daughter,i am unable to get over the fact that someone who doesn't respect me and disregards me so much will be allowed to make memories with my daughter.I cannot forgive him for insulting me on social occasions when everyone thought he should have been present.But yes I will allow once a month meeting.
     
  3. sunshine2017

    sunshine2017 New IL'ite

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    Done this multiple times.He is very moody.He doesn't have friends.Doesnt step out on weekends.Doesnt involve in household work for his own mom.Very anti social
     
  4. sunshine2017

    sunshine2017 New IL'ite

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    Like I said before I have a great relation with my hubby...and with MIL and FIL.so I am not saying I am good..everyone is bad..Just that this 1 person brings down the entire family.

    Because of his anti social skills,the entire family (in laws) are hesitant to go out together.
     
  5. Amulet

    Amulet IL Hall of Fame

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    Thanks for that tag ! Honestly, I was shocked to read that "plan to leaver her there" statement from @sunshine2017.... and now she adds...
    OMG! These new mothers need to go to some training class to learn how to take care of their daughters, and protect them from relatives who have easy access to their homes, and children.
     
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  6. yellowmango

    yellowmango IL Hall of Fame

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    Op....please don't leave a young daughter alone with a male relative...no matter how good or bad.

    It is better to be safe.
    Send your husband and daughter together to spend sometime instead.
    The two brothers can take her out for a kids movie or park if required.

    As for bil....in your case it is for your husband to clear the air between you two. If he is not willing to do so then why do you care ?....let it be.

    His not coming to your function is his wish. Would you have liked if he came and acted weird and rude in front of people ?
    It is better the anti social person stays away from society.
    No body has the time to think about who came and who did not for too long.
    Don't waste your peace of mind thinking about that .Think...good, he did not come and everything went well.

    As for mil and fil ....you can just tell them you don't know why he does not come . On your part you have talked to him but he does not respond so it is fine .

    If your husband can't even clear the air ...I doubt he has told him he should not come . He must be expecting invitation to come to your house.

    If he does come to your house, don' t make an issue of it. It is not just your house...it is your husband's house too. You would not like your husband to ban your brother from his house ,would you?

    You can choose to react how you want in his presence.
    You can leave him with your husband and do your own thing ....don't make it an issue when everything is going fine .
    If he wants to be comfortable coming to your house,he will eventually have to behave better or you can leave your husband to fend for himself and his brother.

    Don't give this loser more mind space than he deserves. Just worry about your daughters safety and your peace of mind.
     
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  7. ashima10

    ashima10 Platinum IL'ite

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    that might come as another course for ladies...
     
  8. meVaidehi

    meVaidehi Platinum IL'ite

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    Agree with others here. No matter how close or nice relative is, a young child shouldn't be left alone with single person. Boy or girl. The world is not what it used to be when we were kids. Too much uncensored exposure has lowered morals and heightened desires. 99% chance people are still good. But with precious babies, we can't take the 1%chance. Priests, teachers, relatives, neighbours, doctors. Heard them all haven't we?
    I remember when we grew up in a small village, we used to mostly play outside in groups. Just tell parents we are going out. Would gather at some common place and wander around playing. But everywhere elderly people, uncle aunties, big brothers and sisters would keep an eye and tell us off if we went off track. Plus it was never alone. A big gang. Never felt unsafe. But it's not so anymore. Nice people are respecting each other's space, waiting for permission to touch someone's child in need, interfere if they see something wrong. While paedophiles are more and more bold. Also you never know he might have some of his friends over at times.
     
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  9. Rihana

    Rihana Moderator Staff Member IL Hall of Fame

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    Sunshine, have some pride. Or if that is discouraged in our Indian culture, have some self-respect.

    You tried multiple times to break the ice. You have done your part. Having done that, if you don't want to see his face, fair enough. You do not have to compromise on "I am the type who cannot tolerate being ignored."

    When children are too young to make their own decisions, it is perfectly alright that those who do not acknowledge their parent(s) do not get to hang out with the child. You do not become guilty of depriving the child or the uncle of the uncle/niece bond or anything.

    But, you need to put forth your argument in a suitable way. You don't want to get painted as the bad person who is ruining an otherwise perfect arrangement and insisting on "silly" things like do not ignore me. What happens with people like your BIL is that they quietly go about their ways, and people start to accept that as "normal" and excuse it off as "he is like that vonly." People start to make adjustments for his "nature" and you are expected to also fall in with those adjustments. And in a few years, your daughter is expected to "understand" that uncle is like that only.

    If he wants to be anti-social, he can sacrifice life's little pleasure like being the indulgent uncle.

    Come up with something sophisticated, like: "I have tried to talk to BIL, he ignores me. He might have his reasons, and his nature is like that maybe, I respect that. <Important to add your respect for him> But, as my daughter grows up, she will be hurt to slowly learn that two people who love her so much do not talk to each other. She will ask me for explanation. What will I tell her?"

    I would say your monthly visit thing is very generous of you and also making you put aside your self-respect. If you want to let those meetings happen with sufficient supervision, make sure you remind your husband periodically that you are doing it for the child though his brother is being an ass.

    And, most important: husbands take a lax view of "never let child out of your eyesight." First off all, your husband might get offended if the "risk" of such visits is highlighted. Next, for each such visit, you will have to remind him about the do's and don'ts. And, with each such reminder, your husband will think you are paranoid about this risk. The more you have to remind him, the more you will come across as being mean about your BIL. And, husband will most likely not take your instructions seriously enough. He will say or think, "I just went outside for 10 minutes to get some bread."

    I have seen first-hand how people don't take it seriously that most molestation, undesired touching etc happen with close relatives that the family and child (are expected to) trust. That is the reason my husband and I never trusted leaving our children with anyone except his SIL who was the one person who really understood it and did not take offense.
     
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    sunshine2017 New IL'ite

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    Can anyone guide me how to delete a threat in IL
     

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