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Discussion in 'Poetry' started by BhumiBabe, Jan 9, 2019.

  1. BhumiBabe

    BhumiBabe Platinum IL'ite

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    I say yes, when my answer is no
    Let's be clear, today is not the day
    To fight this battle for my say
    But this reluctant yes
    Comes with a price
    As it's a direct violation of my promise
    The promise I made to my sacred space
    In my body, my head and my heart
    But this promise is nothing
    Against the one to the state
    and the one to the god I hold holy
    So I say yes in that regard
    Allowing this sanctioned breach
    And consent to paying the toll
    At the price of my spirit and soul
     
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  2. Lalithambigai

    Lalithambigai IL Hall of Fame

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    Such an important topic but taken for granted almost all the time I feel, especially in our society. Been there, done that. You have covered the inner turmoil we go through in those moments, so well @BhumiBabe :thumbsup:
     
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  3. sarvantaryamini

    sarvantaryamini Gold IL'ite

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    That's pretty much every woman's predicament, you summed it up well :) Keep going @BhumiBabe, more power to you.
     
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    BhumiBabe Platinum IL'ite

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    Thanks @Lalithambigai and @sarvantaryamini

    This is a topic that I think has universal relevance, but is particularly prevalent in our culture. I've often heard people give importance for the physical health of their body, through nutrition, yoga, meditation, etc. but very little information is given about the nuances of the violation to our bodies. The body is our temple, but a great number of us have never learned what that truly means. Maybe with time, we'll learn.
     
  5. sarvantaryamini

    sarvantaryamini Gold IL'ite

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    More than violation of the body, it is the psyche. Physical violation though painful can be dealt with easily, not the mental violation. It takes longer if one is not hardened and detached enough.
     
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    You nailed it. It is a deep violation, reaching the psyche and the wound manifests itself at multiple levels - even detachment is a symptom of the damage. One should never aspire to be hardened and detached.
     
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    sarvantaryamini Gold IL'ite

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    Not to prolong or bitch, but there is no option other than be hardened and detached. I guess that is also a realization that comes with age. Only with detachment comes the motivation to work on self and progress. Seems contradictory, but it is true.
     
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    I have to politely disagree. In any spiritual pathway, it is never encouraged to harden yourself. Instead, it is about loving and accepting things as they are. Detachment is basically not being swept in the moment of the emotions, instead, being an observer. The connection of mind/body/spirit is what we are ultimately working toward - that is the progress we are making in our lifetime.
     
  9. Rihana

    Rihana Moderator Staff Member IL Hall of Fame

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    I've learnt that detachment as described above, is needed or advisable from general people. Not from those who fall under the definition of current immediate family. Definition of immediate family changes with time.

    Before marriage or before one is financially independent, immediate family would be those who live in the same household. Parents and siblings are obvious immediately family. Sometimes grandparents, uncles, aunts, cousins can fall in this category if the relationship is close enough. After marriage, immediate family would be spouse and kids only even if more people live in the same household. Detachment from current immediately family is not good. I can understand what might drive a person to that, but, as a permanent state, such detachment kills something very elemental in a person.
     
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    Rihana Moderator Staff Member IL Hall of Fame

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    Thought-provoking, BB. I kind of, sort of, got the gist. I have a feeling we are all reading the same thing and possibly interpreting it in different ways.

    Would you be able to give some generic examples? I would think violation of the psyche is more common? What is "nuances of violation to our bodies"?

    Not hardened or detached, but maybe a thicker skin.... Life is very ouch without that.......
     

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